More disturbingly bad pop psychology misdiagnosis of the "social media" problem ...

> "The mainstream social internet is so big; everyone is connected to everyone, over a billion on Facebook alone. The consequences of connection — fake news, radicalization, massive targeted harassment campaigns, algorithmically-generated psychological torment, inane bullshit — were not part of what we were sold."

I agree all these things are bad, but they're not new, and they're definitely not "consequences of connection", but the consequences of corporate-owned media, ad-based revenue model, and political bitterness caused by rising inequality. We migrated to the net in the 90s because the same perfect storm had hopelessly warped TV, and we naively thought the net might be different.

All the pearl-clutching and hand-wringing over weird YT kids videos makes we wonder if any of these people ever saw kids TV? I well remember the terrifyingly weird psy-op tactics advertisers used to prime kids to use "pester power", both in the "programs" themselves (remember Transformers and Masters of the Universe toys and their "TV shows") as well as in the ad breaks between them.

The good news is, it's still much cheaper and easier to set up a webserver or any other kind of internet server for ourselves, individually or as a community, than it has ever been to set up a micro-radio ("pirate radio") or micro-TV ("pirate TV") broadcast. I helped set up some micro-radio stations in early 2000s, so I'm speaking from experience here. Plus, servers can do a much greater range of things, and any webserver has much greater potential reach than local radio or TV (cool as they are)

Imagine a federated platform like #PeerTube that replace #iTunes for distributing podcasts. It would have all the benefits of pirate radio (or #HackerPublicRadio); diverse voices, a plurality of sources, decentralized production and consumption, plus all the benefits of iTunes; any podcaster can potentially heard by anyone in a global audience, and without the downsides of a platform controlled by a single gatekeeper like Apple corporation.


@strypey podcasts are already decentralized. Apple doesn't host a single one of them, iTunes only does the indexing and searching.

Build a distributed search engine designed for podcasts, and you have replaced iTunes.

@edsu @strypey if it's federated and GPL licensed (like Mastodon), then there's nothing to sell ;)

@edsu @strypey the federated part is a guard against that.

By having hundreds of independant servers, no one server has all the data. And if one server is found to sell data, at least parts of the network are going to block/shun it, so it gets less data.

@edsu @zatnosk startups like Pop Up Archive are created to be sold to companies like Apple. The goal is not to run an independent business, but to get #acquiHired, or get a lump sum to invest as venture capital in other startups. Doug Rushkoff lays out the whole life cycle pretty accurately in his 'Throwing Rocks ...' book.

@strypey @zatnosk actually, it was started up to support non-profit libraries, museums and archives.

@edsu @zatnosk nobody says publicly that their goal is to sell as quickly as possible. There's always another stated goal that gives the asset some nominal value. If their goal was really serving non-profits, why not organize as a consortium of them instead of a start-up?

@zatnosk @strypey
What about Soundcloud-hosted podcasts? I have problems finding the RSS feed for them. (not sure if it's me or SC; I'm blaming them.)

@priryo @strypey soundcloud doesn't work for me at all right now, but if it's a podcast, I'm pretty sure there's an RSS feed somewhere.

@zatnosk @strypey
Yeah. On reflection I think the problem might be things calling themselves a podcast when they're more like "thing on hosting site + blogpost with embedded (but not downloadable) link."
A non-iTunes directory could shake that out a bit.

@zatnosk @edsu if there's no hosting involved, then we're really just talking about a distributed search engine focused on finding non-music audio content (podcast or otherwise) that's freely available on the web with an RSS feed. Something each audio content host could run on their own server, to allow visitors to search for content across a federation of participating hosts, as they can on PeerTube.

@strypey @zatnosk oh sure - in no way am I saying it can’t be done.

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